Posted 2013-04-06 4:48 PM (#57081 - in reply to #51018) Subject: RE: Dacha?
Interesting reading, i would like one of these devices last year i measured the voltage below 185 V much worse over the weekends when everybody visits their dacha.We had to buy two fridge /freezers over a two yr perod(one for us other for m.i.l).Everything else seems to work but not so efficient oh apart from the microwave just spins the plate and does not heat the food.
Found this off the tinternet"low voltages can cause some appliances with motors to burn out, particularly fridges and freezers."
Posted 2013-04-07 8:40 AM (#57088 - in reply to #57081) Subject: RE: Dacha?
Location: In the Windmills of my mind...
adam wolves - 2013-04-06 9:48 PM Interesting reading, i would like one of these devices last year i measured the voltage below 185 V much worse over the weekends when everybody visits their dacha.We had to buy two fridge /freezers over a two yr perod(one for us other for m.i.l).Everything else seems to work but not so efficient oh apart from the microwave just spins the plate and does not heat the food. Found this off the tinternet"low voltages can cause some appliances with motors to burn out, particularly fridges and freezers."
185v will take out most things even a VCR....
The lowest I have seen the voltage at my ex-dacha, was 200v.....
Posted 2013-04-07 11:41 AM (#57090 - in reply to #57077) Subject: RE: Dacha?
Location: Losevo, Vororonezh and England
Mel - 2013-04-06 7:37 AM
Colin - 2013-04-06 2:35 AM Bought it in an electrical shop in Voronezh for I think for around 10,000 rub. Its 10KVA rated so copes ok for our house as long you don't put the cooker and shower on at the same time. Then again the incoming MCB at the meter is only rated at 32 amps and that's uprated from the 25 amp we should have. It makes a little noise, but noting to bad and has solved our problem with the supply. The biggest problem was getting it back to Losevo as it weighs 27KG and we still don't have a car!
Really, one only needs a VCR for delicate electronics like a TV or desktop computer, a laptop running on ac AC adaptor (as most laptops do) would not need one....
I got an apollo 1060 just for the Tv.....
Colin, you should be able to uprate your MCB, as normally the feed to most areas is higher, but you should check it first. I put a 62amp MCB on the main incomer, and had no problems....
Also, would suggest that you fit an inline ELCD 30m/s (Earth leakage current detector), its an easy task to do, and it will ensure electrical safety.
Half the problem is lack of supply capacity in the village, so when one of the neighbours runs their wood saw the voltage drops. I asked at the time about installing a bigger MCB, but was warned not to hence only fiitting a 32 amp. But it is like most of Russia a type C MCB so will take short time overload currents. Often the incoming supply will drop down to 193 volts and caused lots of problems.
Still need to fit a RCD or RCCD (replaces the old ELCD) on the main board which I will do next visit. We don't bother using the house in the village in the Winter now. Still have big rebuilding plans for Losevo and was interested in seeing some more info on your Victorian style cesspit if possible please, as we really could do with an indoor bathroom.
Posted 2013-04-07 1:33 PM (#57092 - in reply to #57090) Subject: RE: Dacha?
Location: In the Windmills of my mind...
It realy depends on the type of earth that you have around your dacha, and the depth of the earth, also on your winter water table levels as to whether you can build a cesspit, or whether you will need to put a septic tank which will need emptying on a regular basis.
But basically I dug a hole about 1.5x1.5x3.00 deep, and built two 0.75x1.5x3.00 wooden boxes together, 1 had access, the other was completely enclosed, with the exception of overflow at about 0.75m down to the second box, the effluent was fed into the enclosed box, once it was all put into the earth.
The whole principle is that the closed box treats the effulent with micro bacteria, which I added once a year (Can be bought in a powder form here), and after a time, the treated effluent fills the box to the overflow, where it then flows in to the second box, this box is accessable from the top for inspections and cleaning if reqd, it is also treated annually with a micro bacteria, and as the level rises, it reaches a second overflow at 1.00 mtr down, this is connected to a long pipe with many 5mm holes in it, and stretched out under the earth of the garden for about 15m, I also put an additional 4 branches to this pipe, this serves to take the treated water into the aeriated earth and disperse it into the ground...
Its a complex thing to design and build, but it probably will not ever need emptying before the timber goes u/s, that should take about 50 years or so......
It is very basic, the wood used was 40mm thick planking built onto 50x100 framework, when finished it was bloody heavy and it took 8 of us to get it into the hole and sit square, then I filled in around the box with wet clay to add to the protection of the wood, as the wood will not rot so fast in clay, as it will in aeriated earth.......
The wood was well treated with real creasote several times to help protect it.....
Posted 2013-04-11 9:52 AM (#57134 - in reply to #51018) Subject: Re: Dacha?
An outside toilet is better than incontinance pants... I can't say I understood a word of Mel's last post but from his pics, he made a very nice place
I stayed in a dacha in 2009 in a raging thunderstorm and the only place to pee was in an outside drain with lightning a few feet away... oh what fun that was
Mel, shame you couldn't have sold your dacha to Peter! The 2nd dacha I stayed in... all the rooms were filled with onions and other harvests, so we ate outside in... yes, you guessed it, another thunderstorm! My nerves have never been the same
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